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SEP-12-06
14:16:7
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Forum: Singles Dating Scam Reports
RE: my experience with scammers
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Nannette
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You're very lucky. Since posting these scam forums, I have received numerous emails from men who run across my scam reports in google.com searches, etc. and they tell me how they were duped and actually sent money and wished they had seen my site before.
It just shows how they prey on people who simply desire to find someone to love. It is a shame and very sad.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.
God bless,
Nannette
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SEP-11-06
19:19:27
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Forum: Singles Dating Scam Reports
my experience with scammers
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alan3355
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i recently (aug/06) had an experience with someone who apparently was a scammer, although, it was tough to conclusively conclude that she actually was one until after several letters. i would be interested in any feedback to the particulars/details which i am about to describe, to tell me whether you would confirm or reject my conclusions.
here are the details of my correspondence with someone named "natalia", 25 years old, molodezhniy, near irkutsk, russia:
1. her e-mail address was a bit odd because it seemed to be too generic - "mypersmail@fanmailonline.com".
2. she stated that she was happy to see that i had replied to her initial letter - however, i never had received a letter from that address before. however, i had replied recently with a "tell-me- about-yourself" message to another/different initial expression of interest letter which i had received shortly before.
3. she immediately stated that she had only good intentions and didn't have any secrets, presumeably to calm any fears/doubts that i might have. this seemed to indicate that she was sincere/legitimate.
4. she then referred to a special program, to which she belonged, run by an un-named agency, which existed to provide young women an opportunity to go to a foreign country for three months to improve their english, and get a taste of the world abroad, and hopefully, meet someone worth marrying. under this program, this agency would arrange all visa and travel documents, and also provide the women with some suggested places to work. she stated that arrangements for her would be meade within the next two weeks, and that she would write with more details in a later letter. - this "program" was news to me, and so i accepted this information with some degree of scepticism.
4. she signed her name at the end of the letter, and added for emphasis/assurance "this is my real name".
5. her two photos were not necessarily model-quality, but they weren't "home-in-the-kitchen" variety, either.
so, there were enough unusual things in her letter to make me proceed with caution. i sent her a detailed letter about me, my family, my past, my work, my hobbies and interests, my religious standing, and my desire to not have children.
6. in her reply to my reply to her, she told me something about herself, and her life there in russia, the typical descriptive letter, with some more photos similar to those that came with the first letter. she again referred to this "program" which was making all of the arrangements for her, and that these would be finalized "in a few days". she asked about the closest airport to where i live, and also provided me with her street address - other than the reference to this "program", to which i adopted a "wait-and-see" attitude, there wasn't much unusual about her letter.
7. however, something unusual happened when that letter arrived - i received three copies of it; in the first, the opening line was "hello my alan, thank you for your answer"; in the other two, the opening line was "hello (insert name here), thank you for your answer". obviously, the second and third letters were not meant to have been sent. of course, this raised my suspicions to a higher level, although i thought that it was possible that she was just "fishing" for the first respondent, which didn't necessarily mean that she was a scammer.
8. in my next reply/letter, i answered some of her questions, and re-asked some of mine from an earlier letter.
9. in her next letter, she talked about how her/the agency was going to help her get her travel documents (including visa) and (airline) ticket, now that she had a destination. she also said that she was expecting to find out here travel details "this week". naively, i thought that this meant that her trip might be scheduled for a few weeks in the future.
10. i responded with a short letter, answering more of her questions.
11. the next thing that i know, she is writing to me to say that she is in moscow, and that almost all of the arrangements have been made for her trip. she then described the trip from her city, her arrival in moscow, and her impressions of that city. this caught me by surprise, perhaps naively, because in retrospect, she had actually dropped a lot of hints in her earlier letters that her trip arrangements would be made quickly, but i quickly adjusted my thinking to the possibility/fact that she was coming sooner that i had expected.
12. the very next day, she sent me details of her flight from moscow to vancouver via london (with date to-be-determined), and then, at the end of the letter, she makes the statement that she herself had to pay for her flight from her city to moscow, and that she didn't now have enough to purchase the ticket from moscow to vancouver. and of course, could i help her make up the shortfall of us$650, which i could send to her via western union (care of an address in moscow). she promised to repay me after she arrived here from the earnings from her first job. i guess that i shouldn't have been surprised, but without her having said so previously, i had concluded that the "program" which she belonged to would also pay for the cost of her flight. in retrospect, this approach was pretty clever. interestingly, she also sent me a copy of her russian passport, which had the same name and photos as i had received with her earlier letters (name: natalia tchesnokowa), which seemed to lead further legitimacy to her.
13. i wrote back to her to say that i was shocked that she had waited until now to advise me of her need for me to assist with the payment of her airline ticket, and that it was not possible for me to act on her request (which was true, i was away from home/civilization at the time), and that the best that i could do was to promise to repay her when she arrived here whatever amount she needed to borrow to buy her ticket.
14. i have not heard from her since, and so, i presume that she was, in fact, a scammer.
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